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==Website purposes for IA (office hour, 06-29-2023) Script==
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:Personas for Friends Of CNM website (office hour, 06-21-2023) is the office hour event on June, 21st about [[FriendsOfCNM.com IA]]
  
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:Website purposes for IA (office hour, 06-29-2023) is the office hour event on June, 29th about Initiating [[Website purposes for IA]]
 
 
===Preview video===
 
===Preview video===
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:https://youtu.be/7z56_IhZEPk?si=J04_XvDXejBNMugY (38:50)
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:https://youtu.be/aNSHyvt07U8?si=1O-6KFmUwWZSdt31 (39:33)
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==Introduction==
 
==Introduction==
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:My name is Gary and we're in the office hour with Gracie and Rita. We will be discussing the questions that Gracie sent about information architecture for Friends Of CNM website:
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:This session is recorded and we are in our unscheduled office hour and we are with Gracie discussing [[FriendsOfCNM.com]].
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==Reviewing [[FriendsOfCNM.com IA]] page==
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:I don't know whether you've been to the [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] page it this is completely out of touch.
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:What is your perception of what [[FriendsOfCNM.com]]  is? How would you define it?
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:'''Gracie''': After reading the wiki Pages on [[FriendsOfCNM.com]], I came to the conclusion that [[FriendsOfCNM.com]]  are the partners and the people who partner with CNM to help in providing some services that they might not be in one way or another be able to provide to theirs to their daily users or clients.
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:'''Gary''': Could you imagine you're right, based on common sense you're right but, historically it's not correct. Initially [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] we were called the tech training team and then because we did more and we wanted to capture people who left CNM so we started to calling ourselves [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] and then we switched to [[CNMCyber.com]]. So [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] is just like the name we used before, which this initiative was known for and instead of [[CNMCyber.com]] it was [[FriendsOfCNM.com]]. If you go to [[CNMCyber.com]] it says [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] is a former name of the Cyber maybe you missed that.
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==[[FriendsOfCNM.com]] to [[CNMCyber.com]]==
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:I don't know what Kevin told you but whatever he told you I'm not sure that you are right and I will probably need to update the [[FriendsOfCNM.com]]  page as well. See [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] was designed initially like [[CNMCyber.com]] whatever now is [[CNMCyber.com]] it used to be [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] and everything goes on that on that link.
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:But what you said makes sense because if you think so someone else will think so and again it's not friends of CNMcyber just FriendsOfCNM. Maybe we can dedicate if we open [[CNMCyber.com]], let's see what Erastus did. so basically [[CNMCyber Home (prototype) is the website which initially was developed for CNMCyber.com. Learn we can send to [[employableu]]. Network we need to send to [[CNMCyber.com]]. Work we will send to [[CNMCyber.com]]. Partner we can dedicate this [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] as the site for those who want to partner. On [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] page maybe I will put it as an idea.  it's not a public portal of the group. what if I open [[Friends Of CNM]] group what does it say, we had even a video about [[Friends Of CNM]] presentation four years ago. Have you been to this page [[Friends Of CNM]]? We may use it as a sample and develop it.
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:This is not as easy as you may think, because you need to start with [[FriendsOfCNM.com IA]] so they can they should correspond. Also on [[FriendsOfCNM.com IA]] page, you said [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] website is one of the ``project``s, website is not a project. Website development is the project, website it can be called a project but we don't call it that. A website is a website and website development can be a project.
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== [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] Idea==
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: You need to add the idea to create a resource site for potential partners… business and volunteer.
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== [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] Personas==
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:I see you started creating some personas.
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:“Brian a member of [[WorldOpp Fellow]] staff”, we have no staff at the moment, we have no [[employee of Educaship Alliance LLC]]. We'll see [[Educaship Alliance LLC]] is just an account but no accounting just money coming in and going out and paid as a Paypal request. But it doesn't have any employees, it is not registered with the state as an employer.
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I will start over, I will put here;
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# Volunteer
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#* Professional to mentor some learners
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#* Professional to serve as a tech consultant
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# Employment
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#* Employment agency – DeDe Leasing Agency – A company that deals with recruiting casual office workers looking for a partner.
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#* Employer
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#* Local government to boost employability of its residents
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# Contractor to develop technology and services
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# Alumni – Lexy – A [[CNMCyber Coordinator]]
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# Workforce developer
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# Educational partners
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#* High school
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#* College or secondary education Institution
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# Donors
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#* Private donors to donate smartphones or laptops or money
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#* Coorporate donors to give grant
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# An introductory job seeker who should be sent to [[CNMCyber.com]]
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:What you had “member of the staff”, they are not really personas to use like employee. Doesn't make sense I don't know where leasing agency came from. I don't know what you mean Leasing. Do you mean like a Temporary Employment Agency? A Temporary Employment Agency will be employment let's put employer instead. What you wrote, I put in the agency for now but it's how I interpreted if I'm wrong you can correct it further.
  
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# Should the developer finish the website features such as hierarchy or roadmaps before starting the requirements for the prototype?
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:Instead of coordinator maybe let's say alumni those who graduate from the program. Imagine that tomorrow you find a normal job, because we give just like temporary and you want to stay in touch you will be in Latin, they call alumna for female and alumnus for male so you'll be alumna and the plural is alumni.
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# Use blueprint Vs. from scratch.
 
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# The main things to consider before starting the prototype.
 
  
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:I put like your wording in my wording but we kind of the goal is to combine both.
  
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:First, let's see what you have done so let’s take a look at all developments.
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:I will also say also educational institution like high school okay and let's put kind of some training.
  
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===Developments: Requirements===
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:Who else can be like a [[FriendsOfCNM.com]]? Donors, why not? I feel like we can advertise that we are a place where someone can donate. For instance, right now I have four laptops and I'm only using two so I can possibly donate to someone. Same as phones I have five smartphones and for me, they are outdated and I tried to sell one to trade in one that is fully working offered me $10 but if I have a chance to donate to someone in say Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia or another country and some can use it and work I will be happy to donate. So for instance if we say Gracie in Eldoret is transitioning from one job to another job and if you let's say cover her internet for $10 a month and she will report to you how she's doing why not? I feel like someone can donate so we can possibly do this.
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:“The ‘’Site’’ will be a site for individuals or organizations who want to partner in [[CNMCyber]] endeavor by either offering their services or support in contribution and grants.” this makes sense to me.
 
  
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===Developments: Design===
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:Also we used to have a page for how we want to make money because we need money for the program. Right now I'm paying from my pocket but that might not be sustainable in the long run, however, this page was created in Russian, so we can have a look and translate this page to English. so we discussed how we could make money and we thought about our own services, paid Services, organizations languages partners, short training offers, and alumni Business Services packages, okay here we go Donor services. corporate donors, private donors not probably much but what we can do
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:Design I meant graphic design and UX design, what you wrote it's more of information Architecture. You kind of laid out what you are envisioning, that there should be some call to action, header section. This is not a design, design is more like a graphic or UX design.
 
  
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===Developments: Home page===
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:I feel like this is a good Target audience. For these personas, we need to create the website, what we will offer them what we want from them. Let's say someone who wants to volunteer, where will this person go? What’s our plan for this person? We want this person to get the website and then what?
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:We also need to write something here too, because FriendsOfCNM group was the former name of CNMCyber when it was still an initiative. Instead of writing somewhere there, I would say you'll need to update kind of that page too if you want to continue working on this. Because friends of CNM website is kind of the page that should describe the website and the purpose of the website should be here. We also need to change this Landing page. Everything on this page should go somewhere else. Do we have all these services or not or do we need all these domains and subdomains are the questions for information architecture.
 
  
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:Whatever you know right now a  CNMCyber used to be at friendsofcnm .com and then we moved to cnmcyber.com. We may have to keep it for the purposes of search engine optimization because kind of Google will rank bigger sites higher.
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:'''Gracie''': Are they volunteering their services?
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:I however don't see any development of the idea that we started creating, the idea that someone will come to the website friendsofcnm.com and we have these tentative personas which we need to call like and so on so forth and someone who is a potential volunteer, what this person needs to see, what do you want me to do? Do you want me to click do you want me to read and when I read, what would I do, where should I go? Did you think on this? To work on the website, you need to have some idea of the front page and to decide what should be on the front page you need to make… The website is a tool
 
  
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:You have to envision what this website should be like, what should be on the front page moreover what should be on the landing screen so let's open the Kenya Airways website “when adventurers make the best stories”, they decided that would attract. What we can say about the idea of the website is that they have flights and they want to sell them. The information infrastructure is to help book a flight on Kenya Airways, also another tab is guest support, it's a kind of client support so it will be the place where I can get the most updated information for the flights. I can also see loyalty programs so they want to keep me involved with them. I can learn about them by clicking About Us.  
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:'''Gary''': Exactly, we had several volunteers one of them his name was Michael he worked for IBM for more than 25 years and then he retired but he wanted to be involved in the technology so he wanted to be on our technology board and he was qualified he gave some insights. If you want to get into cyber security, he was an expert in cyber security so he wanted to take someone and help as a mentor to someone who is going to this field. But you're right, there can be many kinds of volunteers.
  
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:You can see they define what they want from their websites, they say for people who want to travel time use Kenya Airways want them to be able to book a flight then when they book the flight they can be able to check what the status is. We want them to be involved through our loyalty program. So they have the idea, they say for people who want to fly we want them to type where they want to fly it and to be able to book the flight. F or those who have already booked the flight can check the status of their flight.
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:For instance, let's assume I'm Michael, I worked for IBM for 25 years and retired, I want to stay in touch with technology I want to be a technology board member to participate in technology meetings maybe not every week let's say once a month kind of to stay in touch to discuss some technology. So, I saw your advertising I got to this [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] website, what do you want me to do? What do you want me to accomplish? where you will direct me to? Do you want me to take a course? Do you want me to email? What is your plan for me?
  
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:They have a clear idea of what they want people to do. Potential passengers looking for information for booked flights that’s the first persona, the second persona is someone who wants to invest in them, and the third Persona is someone in their loyalty program.
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:You need to think about what you want to do for any Persona, if you want me to stay in touch you will create a form for me so I can fill it up and you will contact me.
  
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:This is the same idea with friendsofCNM, we need to decide who we are targeting and what we want these groups to do. For someone who wants to volunteer what would we offer and what do we need them to do? When someone wants to volunteer, do we need to give them some button or form or something? People will read and then what next? The same for employment provider and so on and so forth. Based on that we can think of what should be on the landing, the main. The home page is like the whole page it can have like several sections I mean kind of the landing screen or landing section, when the person opens the website what this person will see. Mostly it's the main menu and what will be on the first page. It can be a character cell it can be several messages but I don't like Carson by the way, they're kind of jumping in I have no control. it's not user-friendly in my view.
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:'''Gracie''': In other words, I think you are hinting that it should have different subcategories so that…
  
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==1. Should the developer finish the website features before starting requirements for the prototype?==
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:'''Gary''': Could be, I don't know. I'm trying to discuss it with you. Let's say you want to build this website information architecture and we decided… [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] was completely another thing when I created and put it on the wiki it meant something completely different to me but when you said that [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] sounds like partners I said it makes sense. Why don’t we do this? we stated kind of categories who will possibly visit the website but the goal of Information Architecture is not just like to give the website, we want people to do something. If you go to any website let's take Microsoft, you see as soon as I got here, they also said save up like something buy Microsoft 365 so immediately on this page they want me to buy their subscription which I don't need and I will never buy but it is why they created this website and if I scroll they want me to buy Surface device, they want me to buy Xbox games, they want me to get Windows 11, they want me to shop for accessories they want me to get Up to $150 of select Surface Laptop, they want me to Power your dream and if I click here they also they want me to pre-order. I'm saying this because you need to create what you want from the visitors of the website.
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===Hierarchy===
 
  
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:From the Kenya Airways website, the hierarchy was ticket booking, this is kind of their main part right so the same then they created Asante, the loyalty program users and it has another completely another section right it's another menu and other pieces but you can jump back then they put okay corporate for investors and it has its own menu too. These three different sections of the website have separate menus and you can navigate to another one from which you are in.  There are some websites that are really good and expensive like for instance basel.com this website they spent millions of dollars to develop this one website and they put many things you can do.
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:We need to develop what the volunteers who want to give their time or employer or like the alumni. What will they get? Will get kind of certificate or some newsletters? You need to create a journey for them.
  
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:If you don't know for whom you are developing this website and what you want people to do, how you will build hierarchy.
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:'''Gary''': Does it make sense?
  
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===Roadmaps===
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:'''Gracie''': Yes, I think I've gotten something. So [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] it will also be a website on its own or will it be a link from [[CNMCyber]] and then you have [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] the part of partnering?
  
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:Roadmaps is basically what you intend. You want like to create someone who wants to volunteer, for instance, you would want this person to see on the front screen, should they scroll down? where will the button be? and so and so forth. You then need to create a roadmap. For instance, My name is Michael, I'm a retired IBM expert specialist searching for volunteering opportunities. I heard about [[CNMCyber]] I got there and clicked on partner got redirected to the friendsofsenam.com website and then what should this person see there?
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:'''Gary''': When we talk about information architecture (IA), it can be little IA meaning like the website IA or Enterprise IA. We started talking about website IA and what you said right now it's more of enterprise IA. So how do we want to direct our customers? For instance [[CNMCyber.com]] when you joined the program was supposed to be a place for career services, and now I redefined that it will be only for introductory jobs nothing else. [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] It's our enterprise decision how we want to make it. Do we want to send people from [[CNMCyber]] who are friends to [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] website or do we create a separate experience? So let's say [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] people will stay on[[FriendsOfCNM.com]] but at the same time we want another Persona who we are missing, right now it is a potential introductory job Seeker who should be sent to [[CNMCyber.com]] but we definitely want someone who found this [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] on the web and wants to have this introductory job, we want to send these people to [[CNMCyber.com]]. So, [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] should have something that says “Are you looking for an introductory job? go to [[CNMCyber.com]]. So, yeah there should be a link, you are correct.
  
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:There is no decision right now how we should structure it. We should have [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] and we definitely want to send people from [[FriendsOfCNM.com]] to [[CNMCyber.com]], like the right people who are looking for introductory jobs, not all people.  
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:I don't know, like there are many different ways there are many tools. You can start with the description as you started or you can just draw it some people use just paper and pencil and you can sketch something easily also there are some professional tools you can use any content Management systems or the wiki and make a Wiki prototype. There is no single tool, tools are secondary, the purpose of these tools is the primary and you focus on the purpose, on the primary what the site should do.  
 
  
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:We can use many different tools, for prototyping there are special tools, personally, I use Balsamiq lately people use Figma a lot, basically it gives you kind of a feeling of the website and you can host the website there too. Before Balsamiq, we used Axure RP, but this is kind of paid. There are many that are free, I like pencil projects. I decided for now, that to our clients what should be on the front page Wiki is enough, and Wiki is under control and you have seen what Erastus and Kevin did with cnmcyber.com. This looks like and feels like a website, but they didn't finish it, everything should be clickable and be able to go to a different page. I like Wiki because it's trackable you can see the history, and you can see who contributed what. Other fancier tools don't have versioning control at least I'm not aware of any. So you cannot see who did what but with the wiki yeah it has kind of some Version Control you can track and get back and see what happened. You can use this as the blueprint.  
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:This is the question of whether we want to send people from [[CNMCyber.com]] to [[FriendsOfCNM.com]], I have no opinion at the moment. We need to discuss and we may need to decide.
  
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:In a nutshell, the information architecture is things from the perspective of the business goals like what we want this person to do so let's say cnmcyber.com is our tool to attract volunteers right or make volunteers to join our team so how will they do it? should they do kind of a form sign a form or or something else.
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==Conclusion==
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:It has been a good session at least like for you to think about that and we can do another meeting just email me and then we will go from there. Talk to you later

Latest revision as of 14:04, 13 April 2024

FriendsOfCNM.com IA


Personas for Friends Of CNM website (office hour, 06-21-2023) Script

Personas for Friends Of CNM website (office hour, 06-21-2023) is the office hour event on June, 21st about FriendsOfCNM.com IA

Preview video

https://youtu.be/aNSHyvt07U8?si=1O-6KFmUwWZSdt31 (39:33)


Introduction

This session is recorded and we are in our unscheduled office hour and we are with Gracie discussing FriendsOfCNM.com.

Reviewing FriendsOfCNM.com IA page

I don't know whether you've been to the FriendsOfCNM.com page it this is completely out of touch.
What is your perception of what FriendsOfCNM.com is? How would you define it?
Gracie: After reading the wiki Pages on FriendsOfCNM.com, I came to the conclusion that FriendsOfCNM.com are the partners and the people who partner with CNM to help in providing some services that they might not be in one way or another be able to provide to theirs to their daily users or clients.
Gary: Could you imagine you're right, based on common sense you're right but, historically it's not correct. Initially FriendsOfCNM.com we were called the tech training team and then because we did more and we wanted to capture people who left CNM so we started to calling ourselves FriendsOfCNM.com and then we switched to CNMCyber.com. So FriendsOfCNM.com is just like the name we used before, which this initiative was known for and instead of CNMCyber.com it was FriendsOfCNM.com. If you go to CNMCyber.com it says FriendsOfCNM.com is a former name of the Cyber maybe you missed that.

FriendsOfCNM.com to CNMCyber.com

I don't know what Kevin told you but whatever he told you I'm not sure that you are right and I will probably need to update the FriendsOfCNM.com page as well. See FriendsOfCNM.com was designed initially like CNMCyber.com whatever now is CNMCyber.com it used to be FriendsOfCNM.com and everything goes on that on that link.
But what you said makes sense because if you think so someone else will think so and again it's not friends of CNMcyber just FriendsOfCNM. Maybe we can dedicate if we open CNMCyber.com, let's see what Erastus did. so basically [[CNMCyber Home (prototype) is the website which initially was developed for CNMCyber.com. Learn we can send to employableu. Network we need to send to CNMCyber.com. Work we will send to CNMCyber.com. Partner we can dedicate this FriendsOfCNM.com as the site for those who want to partner. On FriendsOfCNM.com page maybe I will put it as an idea. it's not a public portal of the group. what if I open Friends Of CNM group what does it say, we had even a video about Friends Of CNM presentation four years ago. Have you been to this page Friends Of CNM? We may use it as a sample and develop it.
This is not as easy as you may think, because you need to start with FriendsOfCNM.com IA so they can they should correspond. Also on FriendsOfCNM.com IA page, you said FriendsOfCNM.com website is one of the ``project``s, website is not a project. Website development is the project, website it can be called a project but we don't call it that. A website is a website and website development can be a project.

FriendsOfCNM.com Idea

You need to add the idea to create a resource site for potential partners… business and volunteer.

FriendsOfCNM.com Personas

I see you started creating some personas.
“Brian a member of WorldOpp Fellow staff”, we have no staff at the moment, we have no employee of Educaship Alliance LLC. We'll see Educaship Alliance LLC is just an account but no accounting just money coming in and going out and paid as a Paypal request. But it doesn't have any employees, it is not registered with the state as an employer.

I will start over, I will put here;

  1. Volunteer
    • Professional to mentor some learners
    • Professional to serve as a tech consultant
  2. Employment
    • Employment agency – DeDe Leasing Agency – A company that deals with recruiting casual office workers looking for a partner.
    • Employer
    • Local government to boost employability of its residents
  3. Contractor to develop technology and services
  4. Alumni – Lexy – A CNMCyber Coordinator
  5. Workforce developer
  6. Educational partners
    • High school
    • College or secondary education Institution
  7. Donors
    • Private donors to donate smartphones or laptops or money
    • Coorporate donors to give grant
  8. An introductory job seeker who should be sent to CNMCyber.com
What you had “member of the staff”, they are not really personas to use like employee. Doesn't make sense I don't know where leasing agency came from. I don't know what you mean Leasing. Do you mean like a Temporary Employment Agency? A Temporary Employment Agency will be employment let's put employer instead. What you wrote, I put in the agency for now but it's how I interpreted if I'm wrong you can correct it further.
Instead of coordinator maybe let's say alumni those who graduate from the program. Imagine that tomorrow you find a normal job, because we give just like temporary and you want to stay in touch you will be in Latin, they call alumna for female and alumnus for male so you'll be alumna and the plural is alumni.
I put like your wording in my wording but we kind of the goal is to combine both.
I will also say also educational institution like high school okay and let's put kind of some training.
Who else can be like a FriendsOfCNM.com? Donors, why not? I feel like we can advertise that we are a place where someone can donate. For instance, right now I have four laptops and I'm only using two so I can possibly donate to someone. Same as phones I have five smartphones and for me, they are outdated and I tried to sell one to trade in one that is fully working offered me $10 but if I have a chance to donate to someone in say Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia or another country and some can use it and work I will be happy to donate. So for instance if we say Gracie in Eldoret is transitioning from one job to another job and if you let's say cover her internet for $10 a month and she will report to you how she's doing why not? I feel like someone can donate so we can possibly do this.
Also we used to have a page for how we want to make money because we need money for the program. Right now I'm paying from my pocket but that might not be sustainable in the long run, however, this page was created in Russian, so we can have a look and translate this page to English. so we discussed how we could make money and we thought about our own services, paid Services, organizations languages partners, short training offers, and alumni Business Services packages, okay here we go Donor services. corporate donors, private donors not probably much but what we can do
I feel like this is a good Target audience. For these personas, we need to create the website, what we will offer them what we want from them. Let's say someone who wants to volunteer, where will this person go? What’s our plan for this person? We want this person to get the website and then what?
Gracie: Are they volunteering their services?
Gary: Exactly, we had several volunteers one of them his name was Michael he worked for IBM for more than 25 years and then he retired but he wanted to be involved in the technology so he wanted to be on our technology board and he was qualified he gave some insights. If you want to get into cyber security, he was an expert in cyber security so he wanted to take someone and help as a mentor to someone who is going to this field. But you're right, there can be many kinds of volunteers.
For instance, let's assume I'm Michael, I worked for IBM for 25 years and retired, I want to stay in touch with technology I want to be a technology board member to participate in technology meetings maybe not every week let's say once a month kind of to stay in touch to discuss some technology. So, I saw your advertising I got to this FriendsOfCNM.com website, what do you want me to do? What do you want me to accomplish? where you will direct me to? Do you want me to take a course? Do you want me to email? What is your plan for me?
You need to think about what you want to do for any Persona, if you want me to stay in touch you will create a form for me so I can fill it up and you will contact me.
Gracie: In other words, I think you are hinting that it should have different subcategories so that…
Gary: Could be, I don't know. I'm trying to discuss it with you. Let's say you want to build this website information architecture and we decided… FriendsOfCNM.com was completely another thing when I created and put it on the wiki it meant something completely different to me but when you said that FriendsOfCNM.com sounds like partners I said it makes sense. Why don’t we do this? we stated kind of categories who will possibly visit the website but the goal of Information Architecture is not just like to give the website, we want people to do something. If you go to any website let's take Microsoft, you see as soon as I got here, they also said save up like something buy Microsoft 365 so immediately on this page they want me to buy their subscription which I don't need and I will never buy but it is why they created this website and if I scroll they want me to buy Surface device, they want me to buy Xbox games, they want me to get Windows 11, they want me to shop for accessories they want me to get Up to $150 of select Surface Laptop, they want me to Power your dream and if I click here they also they want me to pre-order. I'm saying this because you need to create what you want from the visitors of the website.
We need to develop what the volunteers who want to give their time or employer or like the alumni. What will they get? Will get kind of certificate or some newsletters? You need to create a journey for them.
Gary: Does it make sense?
Gracie: Yes, I think I've gotten something. So FriendsOfCNM.com it will also be a website on its own or will it be a link from CNMCyber and then you have FriendsOfCNM.com the part of partnering?
Gary: When we talk about information architecture (IA), it can be little IA meaning like the website IA or Enterprise IA. We started talking about website IA and what you said right now it's more of enterprise IA. So how do we want to direct our customers? For instance CNMCyber.com when you joined the program was supposed to be a place for career services, and now I redefined that it will be only for introductory jobs nothing else. FriendsOfCNM.com It's our enterprise decision how we want to make it. Do we want to send people from CNMCyber who are friends to FriendsOfCNM.com website or do we create a separate experience? So let's say FriendsOfCNM.com people will stay onFriendsOfCNM.com but at the same time we want another Persona who we are missing, right now it is a potential introductory job Seeker who should be sent to CNMCyber.com but we definitely want someone who found this FriendsOfCNM.com on the web and wants to have this introductory job, we want to send these people to CNMCyber.com. So, FriendsOfCNM.com should have something that says “Are you looking for an introductory job? go to CNMCyber.com. So, yeah there should be a link, you are correct.
There is no decision right now how we should structure it. We should have FriendsOfCNM.com and we definitely want to send people from FriendsOfCNM.com to CNMCyber.com, like the right people who are looking for introductory jobs, not all people.
This is the question of whether we want to send people from CNMCyber.com to FriendsOfCNM.com, I have no opinion at the moment. We need to discuss and we may need to decide.

Conclusion

It has been a good session at least like for you to think about that and we can do another meeting just email me and then we will go from there. Talk to you later
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